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The Age of Em: Robin Hanson on Work, Love and Life When Robots Rule the Earth

The Age of Emthe-age-of-em by Robin Hanson is the best worst book I have read in a very long while. It is the best because Robin has a very effective, efficient and eloquent writing style and a personality to match it. Thus he is able to say utterly horrendous things – like “the 3rd Reich will be a democracy by now” or “Humanity will starve,” while keeping a smile and remaining the very likable fellow that he is. It is the worst because The Age of Em is an efficiency utopia: a place where democracy is inefficient [sic]; one person one vote doesn’t work [does it ever?], ems live to work and not the other way around [because currently we can’t get enough work out of people], citizenship and voting are both for sale, leisure is to be taxed, and humanity has either starved to extinction or has become a tool of our tools.

The Age of Em is a book which has entirely forgotten that technology [or economics for that matter] is only a how but it isn’t and it shouldn’t be a why or a what. That technology is not what we seek but how we seek. And that technology, while necessary, is not enough.

And so, The Age of Em is a book where efficiency and effectiveness reign supreme at the expense of all else. In short, after reading the final version of the book, my opinion has not changed much since my previous interview with Hanson. Though, somehow and paradoxically, I like Robin personally more than last time and really enjoyed having a conversation with him. And the fact that he was happy to send me the final book to review and discuss speaks volumes about the kind of open-minded person and academic that he is. [He also told me he felt I was holding back during the interview – which I did, and so I hope he forgives me that I am not doing that in this preamble to to our conversation ;-] And that is all very commendable indeed. But unfortunately it doesn’t make for a good or insightful book. What it does make for is a good conversation about a future scenario I believe is dangerous and I hope is as far from reality as Robin estimated himself – i.e. 1 in 1,000.

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Who is Robin Hanson?

robin-hansonRobin Hanson is Associate Professor of economics at George Mason University, & research associate at Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University. He has a Caltech social science Ph.D., physics & philosophy masters from University of Chicago, 9 years as A.I. researcher at Lockheed & NASA, 3200 citations, 60 academic publications, 560 media mentions, 250 invited talks, & 8 million visits to his blog OvercomingBias.com.

Oxford University Press published The Age of Em: Work, Love and Life When Robots Rule the Earth in June 2016, and in fall 2017 publishes The Elephant in the Brain: Hidden Motives in Everyday Life, coauthored with Kevin Simler. A prediction market pioneer since 1988, Hanson was architect of first internal corporate markets, at Xanadu in 1990, of the Foresight Exchange since 1994, of DARPA’s Policy Analysis Market, from 2001 to 2003, and of IARPA’s DAGGRE and SCICAST from 2010 to 2015.

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  • Datscilly

    Having watched the entire video, I would like to respond to Robin Hanson’s comment at the end of it, that many viewers may not be actually interested in “the future”, even though they tell themselves that they do. I interpreted this as a challenge to consider my own interest in the future.

    Robin elaborates that for most people the future is a way to tell stories, and those stories are about what we want at the present, rather than what the future will actually be like. I agree that this is a common way for people to read or watch about the future, but it is off the mark for my interest in the future. Personally, I like to think about the future because I like to imagine the good things that could happen to me, for example: living forever, becoming smarter, and overcoming the problems and fears that we face in the present. Rather than tell morality tales, I’m interested in the future because I want a good future to be realized.

    So I come to the conclusion that what Robin means by “the future” is different from how I think of it. In Robin’s world, the future is something that will happen, and there is little we can do to change it, because coordination is hard. In contrast, in the future that I imagine, we have the power to change; thinking about the future is a way to inform the actions and decisions that we make today.

  • This is very much in keeping with major parts of my original criticism to his original book manuscript. Have you seen the previous video? https://www.singularityweblog.com/robin-hanson-social-science-or-extremist-politics-in-disguise/

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